[MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4

Fri Mar 10 13:49:02 CET 2023

Hi David,

I’ve been taking my Miata and now our Mini to PBC Automotive in Chantilly. Cristian is honest and eager to make you a lifetime client. It’s a hike for me but he has ended up saving me money from other wrong diagnoses. He owns and races Miatas and knows how to take care of them. Your car will leave the shop clean and well taken care of. I also love that he lets me step back into the shop and he’ll show me underneath my car.

Pam Muirheid

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>   1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Al Bell)
>   2. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Bernard Kaufman)
>   3. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Bob Esser)
>   4. Re: Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA (Benita Jenkins)
>   5. Re: Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David
>      Alvarez) (Robert Elwell)
>   6. NOVA Repair Shop (Robert Davis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 11:28:38 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Al Bell <badalbell at verizon.net>
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> I?d call J&L automotive in Chantilly.They know Miatas.
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> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
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> Hi all,
> 
> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100 in
> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only half
> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a 3
> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty on
> parts for only $28 more.
> 
> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another 10
> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> 
> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of Arlington
> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> 
> David
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 08:09:06 -0500
> From: Bernard Kaufman <bulk1914 at gmail.com>
> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
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> A couple of years ago I had the engine in my 1990 Miata rebuilt by
> 
> Eurosport auto care in Davidsonville, md. 
> 
> They specialize in European cars but did an excellent job for me.  Not cheap but not terribly expensive either. They are within your driving time. 
> 
> 1268 central Ave
> Davidsonville 
> 410-798-0900
> 
> Bernard Kaufman 
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>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 06:00, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
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>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100 in
>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only half
>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a 3
>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty on
>> parts for only $28 more.
>> 
>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another 10
>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
>> 
>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of Arlington
>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:38:01 -0500
> From: Bob Esser <esserengineer at gmail.com>
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> Control arms are a lot less scary than they sound. Probably take a long
> afternoon to do all 4 corners. You would want to budget about $150 for an
> alignment afterwards. For these historic cars (20 + years old now) you will
> find it a lot more cost effective if you are willing to jump in and so the
> labor on stuff. When I had a miata (sold last summer), I did the full
> suspension shocks/springs, control arms, sway bars, and all bushings. I did
> the convertible top, I replaced lots of the interior and put in a roll bar.
> all of it takes time and tools, but, none of it is especially hard. I
> personally draw the line at anything internal to the engine or transmission.
> 
> the big miata forum has lots of good walk throughs to see how to do it.
> 
> Bob
> Bob Esser
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100 in
>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only half
>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a 3
>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty on
>> parts for only $28 more.
>> 
>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another 10
>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
>> 
>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of Arlington
>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Benita Jenkins <jenkinsbenita at yahoo.com>
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> Hello David:? I have a 1992 Miata that has required extensive repairs, and I have been taking it to Capitol Auto Land in Arlington.? Cory is very honest, and his mechanics very knowledgeable.? Though maybe not cheap - probably better than what you have been quoted. 703.998.0207.? ?Good Luck,? Benita Jenkins.
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> Hi all,
> 
> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100 in
> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only half
> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a 3
> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty on
> parts for only $28 more.
> 
> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another 10
> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> 
> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of Arlington
> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> 
> David
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 09:01:55 -0500
> From: Robert Elwell <robertelwell at verizon.net>
> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
>    (David Alvarez)
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> David,
> 
> I do not have a repair shop recommendation, as I do my own work (for better or worse); however, i do wish to comment upon parts sourcing.  
> 
> Generally, I prefer to stick with Mazda parts - they fit and they work.  I have selectively purchased aftermarket parts with apparent good results (e.g., brake components, shocks, trim parts), but I have also bought aftermarket parts with which I was not pleased.  For example, I bought engine mounts that did not fit correctly.  I ended up having to do a little grinding to make them fit.  Yes, they were substantially less expensive than OEM, but the price savings were not worth the aggravation (they?re getting replaced when I pull the engine this summer).
> 
> Bob Elwell
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>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 6:00 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
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>> Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
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> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:37:34 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Robert Davis <tragicallywhiteguy at yahoo.com>
> To: "mscw at lists.mscw1.com" <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> Subject: [MSCW list] NOVA Repair Shop
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> I've had good experiences with Auto Tech of Tysons for mechanical repairs and general maintenance of my NC.
> They also helped sort out some suspension squeaks I was having after another shop did
> a FM Stage 2 suspension for me a while back.
> 
> autotechoftysons.com
> 703.442.0166
> 1524 Spring Hill Rd # G, 
> McLean, VA 22102
> 
> They're also walkable to a metro if you need.
> 
> Rob Davis
> 
> 
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