[MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 7

Brett Rouillier bulldogsrruff at gmail.com
Wed Mar 22 22:55:05 CET 2023 

Have a low mileage 1990 Miata and finally have to take in for timing belt
and water pump as well as complete brake and shock replacements. Had to
procure a bunch of parts.  I would highly recommend checking RockAuto.com
for online replacement parts. They carry a tremendous inventory of
aftermarket parts. But the best service is that for most parts they offer a
range of suppliers; from inexpensive clearly foreign manufacturers to
better and high quality well known manufacturers. It is up to you to
select. But all the parts are offered at prices that I find are less
expensive than others, including partsgeek. If you are able to combine your
order to just one warehouse the shipping cost is quite reasonable. I just
replaced one brake caliper on my van myself and the core charge was $42,
which I returned to RockAuto using their shipping option that prints out
and the cost was only $7 for FedEx, which they deducted from the deposit
upon the core return and then immediately refunded the rest to my credit
card. The return box must have weighed over 10#, and at the same time I
needed to mail to my sister a camera packed in a box of the same size that
weighed about 4# and Fed Ex wanted $22 w/o any insurance. Went to USPS for
that.

I really appreciate all the recommendations from your experiences. I have
had some terrible experiences from auto shops, including even at the
dealers, so I have prefered to do all work myself. But I am older and I
tire of crawling on the ground for hours so this time for my Miata overhaul
I am going to try to take it to a small shop near me in College Park, Md.
that a friend recommended which charges very reasonable prices. Will
provide an update on how it works out.

Brett


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:04 AM <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:

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> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 08:51:25 -0400
> From: Pam Muirheid <pmuirheid at gmail.com>
> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6
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> Wow Doug, I?m sorry to hear you had that experience with PBC. That really
> sucks. I suppose nobody is perfect or gets it right every time. All I can
> say is that I?ve been going there as long as I?ve owned my Miata (nearly 23
> years) both with the previous owner, Pete, and now Cristian and I?ve yet to
> have a bad experience. I realize that one day I might but so far so good.
> Pam
>
> Sent from Pam's iPhone
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> > On Mar 12, 2023, at 7:05 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
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> >   1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5 (Doug Blackburn)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 09:22:57 -0500
> > From: Doug Blackburn <dougb95 at gmail.com>
> > To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> > Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
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> >    <CAKwz1Gcf6eoV8vE0QRLx1oADupVPNEdMhnSKja31XX3jZsVbEQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have had the opposite experience with PBC.  What began
> > with a water pump and timing belt replacement on my NB last spring turned
> > into a months-long ordeal in which work they performed broke the VVT
> > actuator and each subsequent fix -- though with free labor -- resulted in
> > yet more work needing to be done.  The last time I took the car to PBC
> was
> > to fix an oil leak that was likely caused by improperly fitted seals from
> > the previous time I had taken the car to their shop.  When I picked up
> the
> > car, the accessory belt had not been properly tightened -- and the engine
> > still leaked, and my Miata will not be returning there.  I do understand
> > that other individuals have had a different experience with PBC, but
> would
> > feel a bit remiss if I did not add my experience to the mix as folks
> > consider their options with respect to where to get their well-loved
> Miata
> > serviced ...
> >
> > Best Regards, Doug Blackburn
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 6:02?AM <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:
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> >>   1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4 (Pam Muirheid)
> >>
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:49:02 -0500
> >> From: Pam Muirheid <pmuirheid at gmail.com>
> >> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4
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> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> I?ve been taking my Miata and now our Mini to PBC Automotive in
> Chantilly.
> >> Cristian is honest and eager to make you a lifetime client. It?s a hike
> for
> >> me but he has ended up saving me money from other wrong diagnoses. He
> owns
> >> and races Miatas and knows how to take care of them. Your car will leave
> >> the shop clean and well taken care of. I also love that he lets me step
> >> back into the shop and he?ll show me underneath my car.
> >>
> >> Pam Muirheid
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Pam's iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 10, 2023, at 6:04 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>  1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Al Bell)
> >>>  2. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Bernard Kaufman)
> >>>  3. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Bob Esser)
> >>>  4. Re: Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA (Benita Jenkins)
> >>>  5. Re: Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David
> >>>     Alvarez) (Robert Elwell)
> >>>  6. NOVA Repair Shop (Robert Davis)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 11:28:38 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: Al Bell <badalbell at verizon.net>
> >>> To: <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> Message-ID: <1960086548.1482896.1678361318912 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> >>>
> >>> I?d call J&L automotive in Chantilly.They know Miatas.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
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> >>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023, 06:00, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com
> wrote:
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> >>> ? 1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> ??? <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=
> 6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> in
> >>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a
> 3
> >>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> on
> >>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another
> >> 10
> >>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>
> >>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> ***********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 08:09:06 -0500
> >>> From: Bernard Kaufman <bulk1914 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> Message-ID: <5985D6B6-106F-4838-B3C7-B79CE983C5AA at gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> A couple of years ago I had the engine in my 1990 Miata rebuilt by
> >>>
> >>> Eurosport auto care in Davidsonville, md.
> >>>
> >>> They specialize in European cars but did an excellent job for me.  Not
> >> cheap but not terribly expensive either. They are within your driving
> time.
> >>>
> >>> 1268 central Ave
> >>> Davidsonville
> >>> 410-798-0900
> >>>
> >>> Bernard Kaufman
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 06:00, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >>>>
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> >>>> 1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>  <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> >> in
> >>>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has
> a 3
> >>>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> >> on
> >>>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last
> another
> >> 10
> >>>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>>> ***********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:38:01 -0500
> >>> From: Bob Esser <esserengineer at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>   <CALkNMxbskyoLTCe7uYnw1rnR7HS2bEK1Vx_bR5b=QAmkYnHh7Q at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Control arms are a lot less scary than they sound. Probably take a long
> >>> afternoon to do all 4 corners. You would want to budget about $150 for
> an
> >>> alignment afterwards. For these historic cars (20 + years old now) you
> >> will
> >>> find it a lot more cost effective if you are willing to jump in and so
> >> the
> >>> labor on stuff. When I had a miata (sold last summer), I did the full
> >>> suspension shocks/springs, control arms, sway bars, and all bushings. I
> >> did
> >>> the convertible top, I replaced lots of the interior and put in a roll
> >> bar.
> >>> all of it takes time and tools, but, none of it is especially hard. I
> >>> personally draw the line at anything internal to the engine or
> >> transmission.
> >>>
> >>> the big miata forum has lots of good walk throughs to see how to do it.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>> Bob Esser
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 6:03?AM <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>  1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>       <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=
> >>>> 6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> >> in
> >>>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has
> a 3
> >>>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> >> on
> >>>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last
> another
> >> 10
> >>>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>>> ***********************************
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 4
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: Benita Jenkins <jenkinsbenita at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: "mscw at lists.mscw1.com" <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA
> >>> Message-ID: <513573924.846718.1678372514509 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> Hello David:? I have a 1992 Miata that has required extensive repairs,
> >> and I have been taking it to Capitol Auto Land in Arlington.? Cory is
> very
> >> honest, and his mechanics very knowledgeable.? Though maybe not cheap -
> >> probably better than what you have been quoted. 703.998.0207.? ?Good
> Luck,?
> >> Benita Jenkins.
> >>>   On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 06:01:19 AM EST,
> >> mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:
> >>>
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> >>> ? 1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> ??? <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=
> 6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> in
> >>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a
> 3
> >>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> on
> >>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another
> >> 10
> >>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>
> >>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> ***********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 5
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 09:01:55 -0500
> >>> From: Robert Elwell <robertelwell at verizon.net>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>>   (David Alvarez)
> >>> Message-ID: <B4AD1F8D-EF01-4E99-80AE-5EB2F0BCC16D at verizon.net>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> I do not have a repair shop recommendation, as I do my own work (for
> >> better or worse); however, i do wish to comment upon parts sourcing.
> >>>
> >>> Generally, I prefer to stick with Mazda parts - they fit and they work.
> >> I have selectively purchased aftermarket parts with apparent good
> results
> >> (e.g., brake components, shocks, trim parts), but I have also bought
> >> aftermarket parts with which I was not pleased.  For example, I bought
> >> engine mounts that did not fit correctly.  I ended up having to do a
> little
> >> grinding to make them fit.  Yes, they were substantially less expensive
> >> than OEM, but the price savings were not worth the aggravation (they?re
> >> getting replaced when I pull the engine this summer).
> >>>
> >>> Bob Elwell
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 6:00 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 6
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:37:34 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: Robert Davis <tragicallywhiteguy at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: "mscw at lists.mscw1.com" <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> >>> Subject: [MSCW list] NOVA Repair Shop
> >>> Message-ID: <533540500.215907.1678372654130 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> I've had good experiences with Auto Tech of Tysons for mechanical
> >> repairs and general maintenance of my NC.
> >>> They also helped sort out some suspension squeaks I was having after
> >> another shop did
> >>> a FM Stage 2 suspension for me a while back.
> >>>
> >>> autotechoftysons.com
> >>> 703.442.0166
> >>> 1524 Spring Hill Rd # G,
> >>> McLean, VA 22102
> >>>
> >>> They're also walkable to a metro if you need.
> >>>
> >>> Rob Davis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4
> >>> ***********************************
> >>
> >>
> >> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
> >> ***********************************
> >>
> >
> >
> > End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6
> > ***********************************
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 13:02:18 -0400
> From: Monty Lunt <izonjc7 at yahoo.com>
> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6
> Message-ID: <36955B76-F582-4082-BF00-40544806F888 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I?m new to the group.
> Just bought a 91 Miata in November w/ 65K miles.
> I?d give West Loudoun Repair a call.  Round Hill,VA.   These 2 guys are
> straight up honest.  Not into making a buck.  Just a living.  Small shop.
> The shop is a bit messy but excellent work.  Talk to Wes.
> I?ve had excellent work done at low cost.  One shop wanted $1300 to
> replace steering on my van due to leaking boots.  He replaced the boots for
> $300.  Said there was nothing wrong with the steering.  He won?t do work
> that?s not needed.
> They replaced exhaust system on my ?98 4Runner for about $600.  They
> replaced coolant and thermostat on the Miata for about $150.
> -Monty Lunt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 12, 2023, at 7:02 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >
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> >
> >   1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5 (Doug Blackburn)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 09:22:57 -0500
> > From: Doug Blackburn <dougb95 at gmail.com>
> > To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> > Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAKwz1Gcf6eoV8vE0QRLx1oADupVPNEdMhnSKja31XX3jZsVbEQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have had the opposite experience with PBC.  What began
> > with a water pump and timing belt replacement on my NB last spring turned
> > into a months-long ordeal in which work they performed broke the VVT
> > actuator and each subsequent fix -- though with free labor -- resulted in
> > yet more work needing to be done.  The last time I took the car to PBC
> was
> > to fix an oil leak that was likely caused by improperly fitted seals from
> > the previous time I had taken the car to their shop.  When I picked up
> the
> > car, the accessory belt had not been properly tightened -- and the engine
> > still leaked, and my Miata will not be returning there.  I do understand
> > that other individuals have had a different experience with PBC, but
> would
> > feel a bit remiss if I did not add my experience to the mix as folks
> > consider their options with respect to where to get their well-loved
> Miata
> > serviced ...
> >
> > Best Regards, Doug Blackburn
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 6:02?AM <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mazda Sports Cars of Washington (MSCW) Social Group List Serve -- Send
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> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >>   1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4 (Pam Muirheid)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:49:02 -0500
> >> From: Pam Muirheid <pmuirheid at gmail.com>
> >> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4
> >> Message-ID: <9C89DA14-5064-4521-B161-593EA9783AC4 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> I?ve been taking my Miata and now our Mini to PBC Automotive in
> Chantilly.
> >> Cristian is honest and eager to make you a lifetime client. It?s a hike
> for
> >> me but he has ended up saving me money from other wrong diagnoses. He
> owns
> >> and races Miatas and knows how to take care of them. Your car will leave
> >> the shop clean and well taken care of. I also love that he lets me step
> >> back into the shop and he?ll show me underneath my car.
> >>
> >> Pam Muirheid
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Pam's iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 10, 2023, at 6:04 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Mazda Sports Cars of Washington (MSCW) Social Group List Serve -- Send
> >>> MSCW submissions to mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>>  1. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Al Bell)
> >>>  2. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Bernard Kaufman)
> >>>  3. Re: MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 (Bob Esser)
> >>>  4. Re: Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA (Benita Jenkins)
> >>>  5. Re: Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David
> >>>     Alvarez) (Robert Elwell)
> >>>  6. NOVA Repair Shop (Robert Davis)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 11:28:38 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: Al Bell <badalbell at verizon.net>
> >>> To: <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> Message-ID: <1960086548.1482896.1678361318912 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> I?d call J&L automotive in Chantilly.They know Miatas.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023, 06:00, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mazda Sports Cars of Washington (MSCW) Social Group List Serve -- Send
> >>> MSCW submissions to mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>> ? 1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> ??? <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=
> 6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> in
> >>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a
> 3
> >>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> on
> >>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another
> >> 10
> >>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>
> >>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> ***********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 08:09:06 -0500
> >>> From: Bernard Kaufman <bulk1914 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> Message-ID: <5985D6B6-106F-4838-B3C7-B79CE983C5AA at gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> A couple of years ago I had the engine in my 1990 Miata rebuilt by
> >>>
> >>> Eurosport auto care in Davidsonville, md.
> >>>
> >>> They specialize in European cars but did an excellent job for me.  Not
> >> cheap but not terribly expensive either. They are within your driving
> time.
> >>>
> >>> 1268 central Ave
> >>> Davidsonville
> >>> 410-798-0900
> >>>
> >>> Bernard Kaufman
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 06:00, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Mazda Sports Cars of Washington (MSCW) Social Group List Serve --
> Send
> >>>> MSCW submissions to mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>  <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> >> in
> >>>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has
> a 3
> >>>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> >> on
> >>>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last
> another
> >> 10
> >>>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>>> ***********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:38:01 -0500
> >>> From: Bob Esser <esserengineer at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>   <CALkNMxbskyoLTCe7uYnw1rnR7HS2bEK1Vx_bR5b=QAmkYnHh7Q at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Control arms are a lot less scary than they sound. Probably take a long
> >>> afternoon to do all 4 corners. You would want to budget about $150 for
> an
> >>> alignment afterwards. For these historic cars (20 + years old now) you
> >> will
> >>> find it a lot more cost effective if you are willing to jump in and so
> >> the
> >>> labor on stuff. When I had a miata (sold last summer), I did the full
> >>> suspension shocks/springs, control arms, sway bars, and all bushings. I
> >> did
> >>> the convertible top, I replaced lots of the interior and put in a roll
> >> bar.
> >>> all of it takes time and tools, but, none of it is especially hard. I
> >>> personally draw the line at anything internal to the engine or
> >> transmission.
> >>>
> >>> the big miata forum has lots of good walk throughs to see how to do it.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>> Bob Esser
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 6:03?AM <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mazda Sports Cars of Washington (MSCW) Social Group List Serve -- Send
> >>>> MSCW submissions to mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>
> >>>>  1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>       <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=
> >>>> 6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> >> in
> >>>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has
> a 3
> >>>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> >> on
> >>>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last
> another
> >> 10
> >>>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>>> ***********************************
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 4
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: Benita Jenkins <jenkinsbenita at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: "mscw at lists.mscw1.com" <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA
> >>> Message-ID: <513573924.846718.1678372514509 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> Hello David:? I have a 1992 Miata that has required extensive repairs,
> >> and I have been taking it to Capitol Auto Land in Arlington.? Cory is
> very
> >> honest, and his mechanics very knowledgeable.? Though maybe not cheap -
> >> probably better than what you have been quoted. 703.998.0207.? ?Good
> Luck,?
> >> Benita Jenkins.
> >>>   On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 06:01:19 AM EST,
> >> mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com <mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mazda Sports Cars of Washington (MSCW) Social Group List Serve -- Send
> >>> MSCW submissions to mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>> ? 1. Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:59:30 -0500
> >>> From: David Alvarez <davidalvarez at gmail.com>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> ??? <CAEpnQFpZADQfq34_ivs1m2YYLpCYfOgPm7e9Q1r-=
> 6f3FHYq1g at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> My 2001 Miata LS is getting long in the tooth and requires a bunch of
> >>> repairs. I just got quoted $6k from a local retail repair shop, e.g.
> >>> they're charging $1200 in OE (not sure if they're OEM) parts and $1100
> in
> >>> labor just to replace the front upper and lower control arms and only
> >> half
> >>> the ball joints. The equivalent aftermarket parts are about $300 from
> >>> partsgeek.com with all the ball joints. Granted the retail shop has a
> 3
> >>> year warranty on parts and labor but partsgeek gives a 3-year warranty
> on
> >>> parts for only $28 more.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have suggestions on what to do? I'd like the car to last another
> >> 10
> >>> years or at least until electric Miatas are available, but paying an
> >>> equivalent of the car's value in repairs is very disheartening.
> >>>
> >>> I'm willing to bring the car within an hour's driving distance of
> >> Arlington
> >>> if it will save me substantial cost for good quality work. Any and all
> >>> suggestions are appreciated, thank you!
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
> >>> ***********************************
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 5
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 09:01:55 -0500
> >>> From: Robert Elwell <robertelwell at verizon.net>
> >>> To: mscw at lists.mscw1.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MSCW list] Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA?
> >>>   (David Alvarez)
> >>> Message-ID: <B4AD1F8D-EF01-4E99-80AE-5EB2F0BCC16D at verizon.net>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> I do not have a repair shop recommendation, as I do my own work (for
> >> better or worse); however, i do wish to comment upon parts sourcing.
> >>>
> >>> Generally, I prefer to stick with Mazda parts - they fit and they work.
> >> I have selectively purchased aftermarket parts with apparent good
> results
> >> (e.g., brake components, shocks, trim parts), but I have also bought
> >> aftermarket parts with which I was not pleased.  For example, I bought
> >> engine mounts that did not fit correctly.  I ended up having to do a
> little
> >> grinding to make them fit.  Yes, they were substantially less expensive
> >> than OEM, but the price savings were not worth the aggravation (they?re
> >> getting replaced when I pull the engine this summer).
> >>>
> >>> Bob Elwell
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2023, at 6:00 AM, mscw-request at lists.mscw1.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mazda Repair Shop Recommendations in NOVA? (David Alvarez)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 6
> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:37:34 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: Robert Davis <tragicallywhiteguy at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: "mscw at lists.mscw1.com" <mscw at lists.mscw1.com>
> >>> Subject: [MSCW list] NOVA Repair Shop
> >>> Message-ID: <533540500.215907.1678372654130 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> I've had good experiences with Auto Tech of Tysons for mechanical
> >> repairs and general maintenance of my NC.
> >>> They also helped sort out some suspension squeaks I was having after
> >> another shop did
> >>> a FM Stage 2 suspension for me a while back.
> >>>
> >>> autotechoftysons.com
> >>> 703.442.0166
> >>> 1524 Spring Hill Rd # G,
> >>> McLean, VA 22102
> >>>
> >>> They're also walkable to a metro if you need.
> >>>
> >>> Rob Davis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4
> >>> ***********************************
> >>
> >>
> >> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 5
> >> ***********************************
> >>
> >
> >
> > End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6
> > ***********************************
>
>
>
> End of MSCW Digest, Vol 81, Issue 7
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